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How Do I Comedy?
01-21-2015, 07:01 PM (This post was last modified: 01-21-2015 07:12 PM by Anax.)
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How Do I Comedy?

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04-20-2015, 02:21 AM
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Loose ends infinities away from each other miraculously tie themselves into a coherent finale. And here we were thinking it was just a comedy of randomly-strewn jokes.
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04-20-2015, 06:32 AM
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Are you okay?

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04-20-2015, 07:46 AM
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It's a bot that copypastes sentences from previous posts. ignore it.
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05-03-2015, 05:44 PM
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(04-20-2015 02:21 AM)janewolowitz2 Wrote:  Loose ends infinities away from each other miraculously tie themselves into a coherent finale. And here we were thinking it was just a comedy of randomly-strewn jokes.

SO DEEP THOUGH

But seriously, comedy is basically what you get when you stop caring so much about something that you can start to look at it objectively. Comedy stems from the ability to question. Only by laughing at big important-looking things can we stop them from taking over the world.

To answer your question, all you have to do is start to think in terms of "isn't everything in life just so completely silly and absurd, when you get right down to it?" You've got to laugh, or there's no point to anything. Once you get that down, the next step is to read a lot of books and get a feel for patterns of speech and prose, where to put the emphasis for comic effect, and make sure your speech flows naturally. If your delivery sounds forced, then that's an immediate game-finisher. Also keep up with current events, so you can give amusing comment on topical issues. And remember to eat plenty of fresh vegetables, get some exercise now and again and brush your teeth twice a day. Not because it's funny, just in general.

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05-04-2015, 09:55 AM (This post was last modified: 05-04-2015 09:58 AM by SoDA.)
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"How does one comedy like jokes to be displayed in a particular medium?"

or

"How does one comedy like abridged?"

For the latter, I wanna say, if you say/show your satire to some old fucks- and they truly laugh at any and all comedy containing valid literal humor- and they don't laugh, you're probably not making comedy.

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05-04-2015, 10:18 AM
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It's easier to teach a comedian how to work video editing software than a code monkey how to be funny. I'm trying to help bridge the gap of the latter with this thread.

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05-04-2015, 05:12 PM
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If you think you need to learn how to be funny then perhaps being funny isn't for you.

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05-04-2015, 05:24 PM
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Don't take any advice Uraby gives out. That's step one. Tell me what step two is when you figure it out, but for now just mind step one.

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05-04-2015, 07:17 PM
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(05-04-2015 05:12 PM)Uraby210 Wrote:  If you think you need to learn how to be funny then perhaps being funny isn't for you.

Learning how to be funny is basically what every comedian does. At any least, it's just learning the structure of a joke, or humor.

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05-04-2015, 10:33 PM
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(05-04-2015 05:12 PM)Uraby210 Wrote:  If you think you need to learn how to be funny then perhaps being funny isn't for you.

This looks like the mentality of that guy at the party who makes terrible jokes that nobody laughs at. I mean, he's a natural, right? He doesn't need any help being funny.

But take me, for example. I make tons of puns, and delight in both the enjoyment and frustration of others. The thing is, you can't run an abridged video completely on puns (though that's probably what a lot of my first solo projects will turn out to be). As a result, I read threads like these.

Anyway, so that this post isn't entirely pointless, Anax! I desire to read more. Think you can come up with another pseudo-category?

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05-06-2015, 01:48 PM
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(05-04-2015 07:17 PM)dylanhack Wrote:  Learning how to be funny is basically what every comedian does. At any least, it's just learning the structure of a joke, or humor.

(05-04-2015 10:33 PM)DelfTheFish Wrote:  But take me, for example. I make tons of puns, and delight in both the enjoyment and frustration of others.

This is coming from two people who have got it, trying to teach somebody who maybe don't got it. CHECK YOUR PRIVILEGE.

My point was that humour is something that actively defies rational analysis, because it's fundamentally linked with anarchy and the desire to break taboos and thereby shatter social norms in a socially acceptable way. Now there's a neat little paradox for you.

To put it another way, working out the "structure" of a joke can be useful but it only gets you so far. To be properly funny you have to understand WHY you want to amuse and entertain. And that can involve a long spiritual journey to the dark places of the inside. Pack a lunch.

Quote:Don't take any advice Uraby gives out. That's step one. Tell me what step two is when you figure it out, but for now just mind step one.

That wasn't very nice. I'm going to go and cry in a corner now because you hurt my feelings.

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05-06-2015, 03:27 PM
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Uraby youre the last person who should be talking about the science and psychology behind "being funny" its not about being dark and brooding.

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05-06-2015, 03:56 PM
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Well, this got a little heated.

I do agree with Uraby inasmuch as learning structure can only get you so far, in the end the joke has to come from you. If you aren't a person who can add their own original flare to the structure, chances are you won't be a successful comic.

That said, I think structure and understanding comedic principles can get you further than people give credit. I understand comedians as two types: funny people and clever people. Chris D'Elia is funny. Louis CK is clever. Chris Rock is both. All of these guys will make you laugh. D'Elia brakes a lot of comedic norms - he's tangential and laughs at his own jokes. He does it with such charm, though, that you can't help but laugh. He's a silly, silly man.

Louis CK - or as I call him, "Dirty Seinfeld" - is the opposite. The focus is on what he's saying, not how he says it. There's nothing that special about his delivery - he's an everyman complaining about cringe worthy subjects. If you haven't seen his "suck a bag of dicks" routine, you should. He is purely comedic and everything he talks about is hilarious. He's on par, if not, better than D'Elia in my opinion. And while he possesses natural comedic talent, his inspiration comes from a structural, methodological approach rather than D'Elia's inspired randomness.

Chris Rock has both of these elements - his delivery is fantastic, and still delivers the same mentality of comedy as CK. This doesn't necessarily make Rock the better comedian, but it makes him more appealing to a broader audience (and much more successful).

I don't think that everyone can be Louis CK - that's giving him way too little credit - but I will contend that learning basic structure and studying humour is rewarding. Find your sense of humour and write to it - and don't be afraid to try out new things. Also, find what makes your friends laugh. Try your humour on real people - you'll learn a lot.

TL;DR: Studying comedy is rewarding. Kapiche?

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05-06-2015, 11:38 PM
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05-07-2015, 03:18 AM
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I have a million analyses of comedy scattered around the forums. I'll compile them here when I get home.

Till then, this is a placeholder. Btdubs, the mobile version still sucks ass.

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05-07-2015, 12:37 PM
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(05-06-2015 01:48 PM)Uraby210 Wrote:  
(05-04-2015 07:17 PM)dylanhack Wrote:  Learning how to be funny is basically what every comedian does. At any least, it's just learning the structure of a joke, or humor.

(05-04-2015 10:33 PM)DelfTheFish Wrote:  But take me, for example. I make tons of puns, and delight in both the enjoyment and frustration of others.

This is coming from two people who have got it, trying to teach somebody who maybe don't got it. CHECK YOUR PRIVILEGE.

My point was that humour is something that actively defies rational analysis, because it's fundamentally linked with anarchy and the desire to break taboos and thereby shatter social norms in a socially acceptable way. Now there's a neat little paradox for you.

To put it another way, working out the "structure" of a joke can be useful but it only gets you so far. To be properly funny you have to understand WHY you want to amuse and entertain. And that can involve a long spiritual journey to the dark places of the inside. Pack a lunch.

Quote:Don't take any advice Uraby gives out. That's step one. Tell me what step two is when you figure it out, but for now just mind step one.

That wasn't very nice. I'm going to go and cry in a corner now because you hurt my feelings.

Really... Privilege... You're the second person to tell me that in 2 days.
At any least, I'm still learning how to be funny. And I'm still, if not constantly trying to improve myself in terms of delivery, structure, what works and doesn't work. When to be random and when not to be random. If it's better to make fun of oneself, or others, or to even see if the person can take a joke or not.
All in all, at one stage it's pretty much trial and error, and studying someone like Louis C.K and several other professional Comedians will give you a basic idea on how to make the largest percentage of the crowd laugh, however, it won't give you your own "spice," lack of a better word, I do apologize, that will make you distinct when dealing with all these funny people. It isn't about how to make yourself be the best comedian, because objectively speaking, there is no such way of doing that, but to be the best that you can be, and what your motives are. I'm sure that around 90% (Throwing that figure outta my ass) of comedians want to be comedians, because they have fun while doing it as well as making other people feel good.
So, to be really good at comedy, I'd recommend taking a few Sociology and Psychology classes, because those do come in handy.

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05-09-2015, 08:30 AM
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05-09-2015, 03:38 PM
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I don't think you can really quantify "what is funny" into something that man easily be explained. It's like how the Supreme Court defined what was lewd and pornographic by saying "I'll know it when I see it." By that, I mean that the subjective nature of comedy can make it difficult for people to agree on what makes something funny.

Looking at individual styles, as you provided examples of, can help in this endeavor. Some people like comedy that is spontaneous and instant, where the jokes have a shock value like impact, though this instant gratification may not hold up for some on repeat viewings due to the shock being gone (an example would be the butt-sex scene from Fate/Cero). Others like more story driven and character based humor, where it's less spontaneous, but they feel more entertained (recent TFS DBZ). Others like a sketch style comedy that is basically a build up to a punchline (most abridged shorts).

Then again, categorization doesn't really matter. Look at Monty Python, a sketch based comedy team. They were told during their early career by others "what was funny." They decided to go against the conventions. They intentionally would write skits that went on too long and actively avoided writing punchlines for their material. Many consider their work among the greatest comedy series/sketches ever made. Others find their stuff boring and nonscensical.

In the end what matters is what works for you. No one person can tell you how to be funny or that you're not funny, just as you can't tell someone else how to be funny or that they are not funny. All they can say is what they find funny. If you don't match their preferred style of humor, oh well. This doesn't mean that you should ignore criticism by any means. It just means that what criticism is given is usually influenced by their own bias and preference.

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05-10-2015, 09:21 AM
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(05-07-2015 12:37 PM)dylanhack Wrote:  At any least, I'm still learning how to be funny. And I'm still, if not constantly trying to improve myself in terms of delivery, structure, what works and doesn't work. When to be random and when not to be random. If it's better to make fun of oneself, or others, or to even see if the person can take a joke or not.
All in all, at one stage it's pretty much trial and error, and studying someone like Louis C.K and several other professional Comedians will give you a basic idea on how to make the largest percentage of the crowd laugh, however, it won't give you your own "spice," lack of a better word, I do apologize, that will make you distinct when dealing with all these funny people. It isn't about how to make yourself be the best comedian, because objectively speaking, there is no such way of doing that, but to be the best that you can be, and what your motives are. I'm sure that around 90% (Throwing that figure outta my ass) of comedians want to be comedians, because they have fun while doing it as well as making other people feel good.
So, to be really good at comedy, I'd recommend taking a few Sociology and Psychology classes, because those do come in handy.

That was the most argumentative post I've ever read that still basically agrees with what I said.

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